By Geoffrey Ciani, Eastside Boxing
This week’s 90th edition of On the Ropes Boxing Radio featured an exclusive interview with Floyd Mayweather Senior. His son, Floyd Mayweather Junior, recently made headlines as a result of insulting Pacquiao in what many observers viewed as a mean-spirited and racially charged attack. Mayweather Senior provided his thoughts on his son’s comments, and also talked about a potential fight between his son and the Filipino sensation. He also shared his views on Chad Dawson’s first professional loss at the hands of Jean Pascal. Here is a complete transcript of that interview.
JENNA J: Anyway guys, it is time for the main guest of this week’s show. It is the father of Floyd Mayweather Junior. He is Floyd Joy Mayweather Senior. Hey Floyd.
FLOYD MAYWEATHER SENIOR: Hello.
JENNA: Floyd, your son’s been getting a lot of criticism in the press of late because of comments made about Manny Pacquiao. What do you think about that whole situation?
MAYWEATHER: I just got through talking to somebody about that. From what I understand, it’s been all over the radio and stuff. I heard somebody talking about how he made racial statements. Those are not racial statements that he made. You know, talking about what somebody eats. What’s racial about that? If that’s the case, then when you talk about black people you can talk about what they eat chicken, and they eat yams, and collie greens, and black eyes peas. You can go on and on and on, but I’m just telling you the whole thing is, to me, I don’t like that he did that because it shows me a sign of weakness and I don’t like it. He didn’t say nothing wrong that I’ve seen, because all of this stuff is boxing talk. It’s boxing talk. What does he have to apologize for? He ain’t done nothing wrong.
JENNA: So do you think when he made the comment that he was going to “cook the little yellow chump” that he was talking maybe “yellow” as in coward?
MAYWEATHER: It depends on however he said it. I mean, depends on however he said it. I’m just saying that if you go back to one of my things on the internet, I think you’ll hear me calling him yellow as well. However they want to take it, that’s on them. If they want to take it that he’s a yellow man or they want to take it that he’s yellow as in a coward, you can do that to. It don’t make any difference which way the want to take it. However I said it is in my mind how I said it and how I wanted to say it, but it’s on them on how they want to determine it. That’s on them, but to me, I haven’t seen any racial statements that he made. I just don’t like when he apologized for something that he didn’t say. You apologize when you really have done something wrong. He didn’t do nothing wrong. This stuff is boxing talk. He talks, all of them talk.
JENNA: Floyd, last time I interviewed you it was a very candid interview and you mentioned that you thought Pacquiao was one of the twenty biggest bitches in the sport. You mentioned a lot of things about him. You made similar comments and you didn’t get the same criticism. Do you think he’s getting more criticism because he’s a prominent athlete in this game today?
MAYWEATHER: It could be that way, but even if I was the athlete that he was today, if I speak my mind and I say something, I stay with that. I’m not going to back up. For what? What are you backing up for? That show “Enemy” right now, he’s out to get you and you’re out to get him. So why in the hell do you got to apologize for? You don’t owe him no apology. For what? He did nothing wrong. He ain’t said nothing wrong. The whole thing is, you look on the internet and you will catch me on there. I was talking about him. I ain’t got no respect for him. I called him a bitch on there. He’s a little faggot whore. That’s what he is. You think I’m going to take that back? I said way more than he said.
JENNA: Yeah, I know. I interviewed you that day there. You said your son doesn’t have anything to apologize for. What do you think of all the people that are attacking him now for what he said?
MAYWEATHER: Well they all are attacking him, they want him to fight really. That’s what they want him to do right now. They want him to fight Pacquiao. As soon as he beats Pacquiao’s ass, guess what? He’s the greatest fighter that ever lived and all that stuff. That’s all that is right there, but the whole thing is if a guy or whatever’s going on, the whole thing is he’s got a right to take his time fighting Pacquiao because Pacquiao wouldn’t take the test. When he offered Pacquiao to take the test and make the fight, he didn’t take the test. Nobody said nothing about that. Now all of a sudden now, he said he wants to take a vacation. Pacquiao held his off, so he can’t do the same thing? The only thing I can tell you is my thing is, Pacquiao was scared, simple. My thing is, I know my son and I do know one thing about him—I know he’s not scared of Pacquiao. Especially if he takes that test, the Olympic test. If he takes that test right there I know what’s going to happen to him. I ain’t even got to talk to you about that. The world will see. So all this stuff, there is no reason to blame Floyd. They’re going to blame people. Right now they’re going to do what they want to do. You got the majority of people thinking Floyd is scared. Floyd ain’t scared of no damn Pacquiao. That’s the last thing little Floyd is scared of is Pacquiao. I said one thing and I’ll say it again, take the test! Take the test and we’ll find out.
JENNA: Alright now Floyd, mentioning Pacquiao, he has a fight coming up on November 13. He’ll be fighting against Antonio Margarito, a guy that was caught cheating in the ring. I’m just curious with yourself here, what do you think of that match-up and the guy that he’s choosing to fight?
MAYWEATHER: In my honest opinion, they can both fight each other because they’re both, to me in my mind, crooks. So they can fight each other and beat each other up all they want to because one is no better than the other one. Everybody’s doing something dirty. That’s what I feel and believe. To me, in my opinion, one is no dirtier than the other one. So it’s a good fight. Whoever wins is going to win. On the real thing, a guy is big as Margarito, you never see this stuff happening ever in the life of boxing that a little man was beating all these big men. You’ve never seen that. It isn’t because of a coincidence, because to me there’s a reason for it. There’s a reason for why he’s beating these guys like I said before. Whatever the reason is, it don’t sell with me. It don’t sell with me. Whatever’s happening, I’m looking at it the way my mind tells me it is. That’s the way I’m looking at it. I’m looking at it the real way. Pacquiao is probably going to end up beating Margarito.
JENNA: You said Pacquiao will probably end up beating Margarito, but how do you see the final result of it. Do you think it will be by knockout? Do you think it will go to the cards? How do you see it going?
MAYWEATHER: Let me explain something to you. Pacquiao has three losses and two draws and of course he got beat by—I don’t recall the guy’s name. The Mexican who used to fight. What’s his name? Barrera? His name’s Barrera. I can’t think of his name. It’s Barrera.
GEOFFREY CIANI: Morales.
MAYWEATHER: Yes! There you go. Morales, he got beat by Morales. Morales beat him first, then he came back and beat Morales, but that’s neither here nor there. He got beat by a little guy like that and he’s going to fight a great big old guy like Margarito? That stuff, it’s crazy. I already know little Floyd is not as big as Margarito, but I’ll tell you one thing—little Floyd would tear that ass apart. Shane tore Margarito apart, Floyd tore Shane apart. Right there, I mean, how in the hell is Pacquiao going to come and whop Floyd? Please, come on! I really want to know how that’s going to be done. It sure isn’t going to be done. If he takes all of his tests, and everything pans out like it’s supposed to, you will see and everybody else will see. My thing is all these high praises and stuff they got on Pacquiao is bullshit. Like I called him before, I call him “Freddie the Joke Coach Roach”. I call him “Freddie the Dope Coach Roach” now. I know what’s behind him.
JENNA: You mentioned that before, Floyd. You said that you thought Freddie Roach was a joke of a trainer. I’m just curious a little bit, why do you think that is with all he’s accomplished training his fighters?
MAYWEATHER: Let me tell you something! He’s winning and there’s a reason why he’s winning. He’s winning, there’s a reason why he’s winning. Figure it out why he’s winning. It’s simple to me.
JENNA: You think he does that with all of his fighters, including Khan and others?
MAYWEATHER: Let me tell you this right here. He can say what he wants to say. He can say what he wants to say but his gym has been known for that for years. It ain’t nothing that I’m saying. It’s something that the whole nation’s been talking about with his gym. There’s a whole thing about his gym. Many people that have come out of his gym have been like that. I’m not going to name no people off. There are just names I know, but hey, look. It iain’t for me to say. It makes no difference to me, but my thing is right now, I’m trying to straighten my business out with Pacquiao on this case here, and I ain’t trying to get in no trouble with Freddie as far as this situation about his gym, but hey. It is what it is.
JENNA: Floyd, I’m going to toss it quickly over to my co-host Geoff here for a couple of questions. Geoff?
MAYWEATHER: Yeah.
CIANI: Hey Floyd, good to talk to you again. I was just curious, the last time I had you on Floyd I asked you about Chad Dawson’s fight with Jean Pascal and that’s a fight that Jean Pascal wound up winning and pulling off the upset. Were you surprised by that fight, and do you think that’s a fight Chad should have won?
MAYWEATHER: Are you kidding me? He should have beat that guy easy. That was an easy fight. The guy couldn’t even fight to tell you the truth, and not only that, Chad was in better shape than him. Chad didn’t use his jab, he didn’t do nothing. The guy after five rounds, he was dead tired. So I’m just telling you, the man beat Chad when the man wasn’t even in shape. If the guy gets in shape, who knows, but he wasn’t in shape I can tell you that. After five rounds, I thought it was over for him. He was gassing then. He held, he danced, and run off a flurry off every now and then, then run back, and grab him, then run another flurry off on him and tie up. That was the rest of the fight.
CIANI: So what do you think was the main problem that Chad in that fight?
MAYWEATHER: He wasn’t using his jab. It was probably, well, I’m going to say it like this right here. I don’t know whether you know what happened with me and Chad in our situation, why we left each other, but he won the title with me and then he had a title defense with me. It probably was the same reason why that happened. If you all don’t know the incident that happened, we don’t worry about it, but it was something that happened between us why we split. It probably was the same thing. That’s why he was looking like he was looking.
CIANI: Now the guy that beat Chad, Jean Pascal, he’s supposed to fight Bernard Hopkins later this year and I’m wondering, based on what you know of Hopkins and based on what you saw of Pascal in the fight when he beat Chad, who do you think would win between Hopkins and Pascal?
MAYWEATHER: I’m going to say it like this right here. The guy has an awkward style and he’s strong. Hopkins is an older man as well, but if he fought like he did the other night, Hopkins got a chance but if the guy gets in better shape than he did when he was fighting Chad, maybe not.
CIANI: So you think that one could go either way?
MAYWEATHER: Well if the guy gets in better shape, I would have to favor the guy if the guy got in better shape. The guy wasn’t in good shape when he fought Chad, not at all. To tell you the truth, he could have done much more damage to Chad had he been in shape. The guy wasn’t doing nothing but throwing punches, then running for awhile, then he’d grab Chad here, then throw some more punches off and run again. But it didn’t make no difference, because Chad was doing nothing anyways but just standing there in front of him. He wasn’t doing anything anyway, so it didn’t make no difference.
JENNA: Alright Floyd, well I just have a couple of more questions for you and I was wondering, do you think the comments your son said will either help or hurt a future fight coming together between him and Pacquiao?
MAYWEATHER: I don’t see why it should hurt nothing, because if that’s the case, it’s supposed to be the richest fight in the world. Why wouldn’t he fight? Why wouldn’t Pacquiao fight? I don’t think it hurts nothing at all. If either one of them, my son or Pacquiao chooses not to fight, it’s because there has to be a reason for them not to fight. Otherwise, I know full well little Floyd ain’t turning it down. I don’t know about Pacquiao. They may just find a reason. Maybe not, because sometimes you got enough people out there in the background, but more than likely I think the fight will happen, though. I don’t think the fight would go astray because someone said something or the other one said something. I don’t think that fight will go astray. I think that still happens.
JENNA: Now Floyd, do you think this fight will ever happen if Pacquiao does not agree to Floyd’s drug testing requirements?
MAYWEATHER: I wouldn’t fight him, either. If he doesn’t take the drug test, I wouldn’t fight him either because why wouldn’t he take the test. I’m simply saying I wouldn’t fight him if he didn’t take the test. I wouldn’t fight him. If you don’t take the test, there’s a reason why you don’t take the test. I never heard about nobody getting weak because they took a pint of blood. That’s bullshit. That’s bullshit, so if the fight won’t go on if he don’t take the test, and if he don’t take the test there’s a reason why you don’t take the test. You can’t say you just ain’t taking no test because of a pint of blood. Shit, that pint of blood, it don’t mean nothing. So it’s got to be more than a pint of blood why he don’t take the test. All that stuff about a certain amount of days before you take the test because of blood, that’s bullshit. You take the same test the man takes and you’re both under the same obligation. You take the test, and fight. That’s it.
JENNA: Now do you think your son will be fighting somebody else other than Pacquiao next?
MAYWEATHER: He’ll probably fight somebody before Pacquiao. He’ll probably fight somebody else before Pacquiao, but I will assure you one thing, though—he’s not scared of Pacquiao. I’m going to assure you that and I’m going to assure you he’s going to whop Pacquiao’s ass. That’s what I’m going to tell you, and if he don’t whop him, you know just like I know because there ain’t no way. Pacquiao has no defense. How are you going to whop somebody if you got no defense at all? You know with little Floyd right here, you better have some defense and that’s something he don’t have and that’s something that Freddie “The Joke Coach” Roach can’t teach and you can’t teach nothing if you don’t know nothing. The whole thing is, evidently Pacquiao to me is so dumb, he don’t know what his trainer don’t know. He don’t know that his trainer don’t know. So he’s dumber than his trainer. He don’t know that his trainer don’t know, so he’s dumber than trainer. He’s so dumb that he don’t know his trainer can’t even teach it. Defense! If you ain’t got no defense, defense wins fights. That’s what you win fights with, defense. That’s what you win football with, defense. That’s what you win basketball with, defense. That’s what you win checkers with, defense. There are so many other games that you play, baseball, all of those games, any game that you play, defense wins. It’s not saying that you’re backing up every time you do defense, it’s just defense is the game, and that’s the game for all the games. Defense wins.
JENNA: Alright now Floyd, if your son does return against somebody other than Pacquiao, do you think he’ll face a top welterweight like an Andre Berto or someone like that in his next appearance in the ring?
MAYWEATHER: Do I think he is going to fight somebody like Berto? I can’t even say who he would fight to tell you the truth. Right at this particular time right now, I don’t think Berto is even a challenge. I don’t believe that he is. I’m not saying that he’s not a good fighter, but I don’t think he’s at little Floyd’s level yet.
JENNA: Alright, so you can’t think of anyone else out there that your son could fight? Maybe Sergio Martinez?
MAYWEATHER: I’m going to tell you right now. That’s the one that’s getting ready to fight Shane, ain’t it? Is that the one that’s getting ready to fight Shane Mosley?
JENNA: No, no. That’s Sergio Mora. I was talking about Sergio Martinez, that’s the middleweight champion.
MAYWEATHER: Okay. Which one is getting ready to fight Shane?
JENNA: That’s Sergio Mora, the former 154 pound champion.
MAYWEATHER: Okay, okay. Shane’s going to beat him, too.
JENNA: I have one final question for you. Is there anything you want to say all the boxing fans out there and the fans of your son? Is there anything you want to say to them?
MAYWEATHER: The only thing I can tell you right now is the way it stands. Right now, today, in the game of boxing, Floyd Joy Mayweather Junior is the best. For all the rest, there’s no contest, I must confess. That’s the end of the story.
JENNA: Alright, well Floyd it’s been a pleasure talking to you again. We do thank you for your time and wish you all of the best in the future.
MAYWEATHER: Thank you. I appreciate it.
CIANI: Thanks Floyd. Have a good one.
MAYWEATHER: Alright, take care now.
Source: eastsideboxing.com
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