Tuesday 27 July 2010

HBO's Greenburg says there WERE negotiations -- The Ring

By Michael Rosenthal, The Ring

Bob Arum, the promoter of Manny Pacquiao, said last week that he negotiated with Floyd Mayweather Jr. for a proposed Nov. 13 fight through HBO Sports President Ross Greenburg.

Leonard Ellerbe, one of Mayweather's advisors, then issued a bizarre statement claiming no negotiations ever took place. That was corroborated by Richard Schaefer and Oscar De La Hoya of Golden Boy Promotions, with which Mayweather is affiliated.

Bargaining for Advantage: Negotiation Strategies for Reasonable People 2nd EditionNow Greenburg releases a short statement on Monday evening saying he did in fact act as a go-between in negotiations with the two sides.

The statement:

“Fights like Mayweather vs. Pacquiao are significant because of these fighters’ ability to connect with sports fans around the world. It’s unfortunate that it won’t happen in 2010. I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd, carefully trying to put the fight together. Hopefully, someday this fight will happen. Sports fans deserve it.”

You be the judge.

Source: ringtv.com

Time for Pacquiao to stop cheating history by inventing weight classes -- Sports Illustrated

By Jake Donovan, BoxingScene.com

Another event, another catch ... weight, that is.

Nothing but disappointment and grumbling has been expressed in the wake of yet another failed attempt to match Floyd Mayweather Jr., and Manny Pacquiao, universally regarded as the two best fighters in the world today.

In a perfect world, a worthy alternative would be offered with at least the promise of something greater waiting in the wings. Instead, we get whatever promoters and networks elect to feed us.

Crooked: A History of Cheating in SportsRather than a matchup to determine who's the best active fighter (and welterweight) in the world, we get a repeat of what we were already asked to pay for last year: Team Pacquiao inventing another weight class for the sake of chasing history.

From the moment promoter Bob Arum revealed in his after-hours conference call more than a week ago that the options for Pacquiao's next opponent were limited to two of his own fighters, it was clear that the final choice would come down to the one more willing to bend over and take it however the Vegas-based promotional company wanted to give it to them.

Arum stated on the call that he was confident that a deal could be reached within 10 days, though also claiming that negotiations had never yet begun with either Miguel Cotto or Antonio Margarito -- the two finalists in this year's Pacquiao opposition sweepstakes.

The comment was peculiar considering that Pacquiao -- for all of his charm, humility and in-ring greatness -- has proven in recent years to be a bear to deal with at the negotiating table. Deals to face Cotto, Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya all dragged on until the last possible minute, with all three fights in limbo at one point or another before being finalized.

At the heart of most negotiating complications is money, but the deal struck with Cotto went well beyond that. The sales pitch for their November 2009 showdown was Pacquiao pursuing a title in a record seventh weight class, just months after having become the only fighter in boxing history to capture lineal world championships in four separate divisions.

The biggest hang-up most had with the manner in which he was gunning for Cotto's title was his unwillingness to honor the actual welterweight limit. Cotto held his ground for as long as he could, demanding that the fight either takes place at 147 pounds for his title -- or at Pacquiao's suggested catchweight of 145 but without the alphabet hardware at stake.

With nobody looking out for his best interests -- Arum promotes both sides but was never going to tell Pacquiao to back down -- Cotto eventually gave in, agreeing to the catchweight and accepting the payday that came with title fight.

We are now at the same exact point, only the circumstances are far more suspect.

Without a deal in place, Arum has already claimed on the record that Margarito -- who has now emerged as the frontrunner to face Pacquiao on Nov. 13 -- is willing to concede to Team Pacquiao's demand for a catchweight of 150 pounds. That's a full four pounds beneath the junior welterweight limit.

If it were for any given fight, it wouldn't be much of an issue -- the weight or the fight itself. More than a few fans and media members have voiced their displeasure over Margarito being rewarded with a big payday while still being without a license to box in the United States. Those same outspoken critics have called for his banishment after being caught with loaded hand wraps prior to the eventual beatdown he would catch from Shane Mosley in their January 2009 fight. More so than the act itself, what doesn't sit right with most is Mararito's tendency to stop just short of accepting full responsibility for what took place that night whenever pressed.

But all of that stuff merely casts Margarito as the villain when the deal to face Pacquiao in November is finalized.

A villain is precisely what has been missing from Pacquiao's last several promotions. That's all the more reason why a showdown with Mayweather -- who has perfected the role of Public Enemy No. 1 for any given event in recent years -- would've resulted in the most lucrative prizefight ever.

You can argue that De La Hoya wore the black hat when he faced Pacquiao in December 2008, simply from the perspective of his having spent the past 11 years at 147 or higher while calling out a fighter who at the time had never fought heavier than 135. It was the first time in years that Pacquiao entered the fight as a considerable underdog, making it that much easier to root for him and only adding to the promotion.

Since then, the choice of opponents have hardly been the type of cats that you love to hate -- Ricky Hatton, of whom there's only one; Cotto, whom most either love or are simply indifferent two; and Joshua Clottey, who -- even if you dislike him -- never carried with the fans that level of interest to significantly add to any promotion.

From that perspective alone, Margarito serves a purpose -- one more reason to root for Pacquiao, one more reason to hate Margarito, one more reason to buy the pay-per-view event.

That was never going to happen with a Cotto rematch; if anything, it would detract from Pacquiao's popularity. Arum's sales pitch that Cotto brings enough to the table to make a second fight enticing never went very far; the lopsided beating is still far too fresh in everyone's memory -- as is the lousy undercard that preceded the main event.

Even worse, any record books that would recognize Pacquiao as an eight-division world champion -- had he won -- would've shown two wins over Cotto at two separate weight classes, neither of which would've come at the true divisional limit.

Sadly, part of that statement will still read true after Nov. 13, should he get by Margarito.

At stake for this event will be a belt that was vacated by Sergio Martinez -- to be contended by two fighters who between them account for zero notable wins at the 154-pound limit.

Margarito's most recent fight came at the junior middleweight limit, taking a 10-round decision over fringe contender Roberto Garcia. Prior to that fight, it was six years since he fought at the weight -- dropping a decision to Daniel Santos in their September 2004 rematch -- and even longer since he won a fight above welterweight.

In other words, nothing to earn the right to challenge for a title of any kind.

While Pacquiao arguably earns the right to fight for the belt of his choosing on social status alone, it's been more than two years since he's fought for any title sanctioned by the alphabet group who will recognize the winner of this fight as their junior middleweight champion. That fight for Pacquiao came three weight classes south, against David Diaz for a lightweight belt.

Pacquiao won that fight with ease, but never defended the belt or even returned to 135. That win came on the heels of his rematch win over Juan Manuel Marquez for the lineal junior lightweight championship, only to bolt from that division immediately after the fight.

His two-round blowout over Hatton for the lineal junior welterweight crown remains his only fight to date at the 140-pound weight limit. Several publications (including BoxingScene.com) continue to recognize him as the champion, even though he hasn't fought at the weight in more than a year, nor is it likely that he ever drops back down below the welterweight division.

In fact, for all of his belt-collecting in recent years, his 12-round whitewash over Clottey earlier this year marked the first successful title defense at any weight since he campaigned as the world featherweight champion more than six years ago.

Now, one fight into his welterweight reign, he eyes a belt in yet another division.

He doesn't want to pursue it the old-fashioned way -- by earning it -- or even by pursuing one of its many other beltholders, but instead by cherry-picking his way towards a vacant title ... in a fight where the participants could potentially weigh no heavier than four pounds below the actual divisional limit.

The demands for last year's Cotto fight -- while not universally embraced -- were at least somewhat forgiven, considering the fact that Pacquiao was at least facing a recognized beltholder.

But there are only so many times that a fighter and his team can keep dipping into the same well and expect his paying audience to come along for the ride.

Pacquiao's history-making run in recent years has proven that he's capable of sustaining his greatness even as he adds pounds to his frame and challenges himself in the ring against top-notch fighters.

But in the wake of failing to make a fight happen with Mayweather, and considering that there are plenty of other fighters in and around the welterweight division against whom the fans would much rather see him, the time has come for Manny Pacquiao and his handlers to stop cheating history.

Source: sportsillustrated.cnn.com

Trainer: Antonio Margarito 'Stops' Manny Pacquiao Late -- FanHouse

By Lem Satterfield, FanHouse

It appears that seven-division champion and present WBO welterweight (147 pounds) king Manny Pacquiao will pursue his eighth crown in as many different weight divisions on Nov. 13, either in Las Vegas or Mexico, against ex-world champion Antonio Margarito (pictured above, at right), doing battle for the vacant WBC junior middleweight (154 pounds) crown.

Margarito is coming off of May's 10-round, unanimous decision over Roberto Garcia in Mexico, which helped him to rebound from a ninth-round knockout loss to Shane Mosley in January 2009. Prior to the bout, Mosley's trainer, Naazim Richardson, discovered that the Mexican's fist wrappings included a plaster-like substance that was subsequently removed and confiscated.

Manny Pacquiao Collectible Coffee MugAlthough Margarito has claimed no knowledge of how his hands were taped, blaming former trainer Javier Capetillo, he still is not legal to fight in America -- this after his boxing license was revoked by the California State Athletic Commission following the illegal hand-wrapping scandal that was the result of the Mosley fight.

In this Q&A, FanHouse spoke to Margarito's new trainer, Robert Garcia, regarding his fighter's past, and his potential to defeat Pacquiao. Margarito is promoted by Top Rank Promotions.


FanHouse: So when will you begin training Antonio Margarito for Manny Pacquiao?

Robert Garcia: The first week of September. Right. That will give us about 10 weeks of training before the fight. But Antonio is always in the gym anyway. He runs every day as part of his regular workout. But our boxing regimen will begin officially 10 weeks before the fight.


FH: What has Antonio said to you about the entire hand-wrapping scandal?

RG: Honestly, like I've told everybody and I'll tell you the same thing, when a trainer is wrapping hands, the fighter is normally listening to music, listening to their iPod or something. They don't pay attention to what's going on with the wrapping.

You know, they give us all of the trust. I've wrapped fighters from Nonito Donaire to Joan Guzman to Steven Luevano. I've done it for a number of world title fights.

Of all of the fighters that I have, not one single time have they asked, 'Can I see what's on the wraps?" or "can I see what's on the padding?'

They trust me and they believe that I'm doing a good job, and I want them to believe that I'm doing a good job. Every fighter, even when I was fighting, whoever wrapped my hands, I wasn't questioning it. It wasn't like, 'What's there?' or 'what are you putting in there?'

I just stuck my hands out there, listened to music and let my trainer do the job. That's the way that it's supposed to be, and that's the way that it's always been. Antonio and I talk about it a little bit. We tried to kid around about it. We try anyway. But he's always said the same thing.

He's like, 'just like you're doing right now. I'm not asking you what you're putting in the wraps. I'm letting you do your job.' He said, 'that's what I always did with my former trainer.'


FH: Have you ever met Javier Capetillo, and what do you think of what he did?

RG: I've known him for years. Since I was a fighter, I've always known Capetillo. He's a very nice person outside of the ring. Always helped us out if we needed sparring. He would let us come out to Los Angeles. Myself, my dad, Fernando Vargas. He would always give us sparring and everything.

He's a good person, but I don't know what he was thinking or why he would do something like that or what his intentions were. It's something that, you know, I wasn't there to tell you how things went. All that I've heard is what Antonio has said to me and what I've read.

That's how I know what happened. I don't ask him questions about, 'Why did Capetillo do this?' or 'why did he do that?' That's none of my business. Now, he's with me, and I'm doing my best, and I've always done a good job with my fighters.

Antonio is happy with the way that I wrap his hands. He's actually surprised. He's happy and everybody that I work with and that I wrap is happy.


FH: What do you believe that the public perception is of this fight?

RG: What I hear is what I read. But everybody who has talked to me says that Antonio has done his year and served his time and his suspension. So he's paid his dues. They should give him an opportunity to fight again.

He's got a new team and new people behind him. Nobody's ever heard any controversy around myself or my team, so they've got nothing bad to say about the new team that he's with. Like I said, the fighters put their hands out there and the trainer does the job.

I'm pretty sure that Margarito is going to do well in this fight and give us good results.


FH: How do you believe that Antonio will do against Manny Pacquiao?

RG: Well, I'm on top of that. I've been watching Manny's fights. I've been watching Freddie Roach also. Freddie Roach is a great trainer, and I respect him. But I've learned some things about the way that they train and the way that Manny Pacquiao fights.

I think that I've got a good idea about how they're going to try to fight against us. I think that we have a great chance. Antonio's last fight with Roberto Garcia, he'll be much better than that. That was his first fight with me and he did what I asked him to do.

He fought smart, moved around, boxed. I honestly thought that he looked really good. He was different from the Margarito that the world had come to know, and that we all knew. He was not the guy that came straight forward and get hit and just wore down his opponent.

With me, I just told him that he's not just a guy that goes out and gets hit and gets into wars. I said, 'show these people that you can also box.' He came out, knocked Roberto down in the first round, and wound up winning a unanimous decision.

He played around with Garcia and showed the world that he's got skills. He's got skills and good footwork. We worked about three months before his last fight, so, this next time, he'll be even better. I think that we have a good chance.


FH: I understand that there is a catch weight of 150 pounds for this fight?

RG: I believe that the fight will be at a catch weight of 150 pounds, and 150 is no problem for Antonio. The last time he came in to camp, he was 12 pounds over where he had to fight, which was 154. Two weeks before the fight, he was already on weight.

So he had no problem making that weight. So he will be a very strong fighter in there against Manny Pacquiao.


FH: Do you have a prediction?

RG: Obviously, I've never called fights or ever predicted anything. I just know that Antonio will have the heart and the power and the conditioning to be a great champion and to beat anybody out there.

But I think that we can get him in the later rounds. So I'm going to say that maybe Antonio stops him in the later rounds.

Source: boxing.fanhouse.com

Sugar Ray sees Pacquiao victory -- Manila Bulletin

By NICK GIONGCO, Manila Bulletin

Boxing great Sugar Ray Leonard predicts an easy win by Manny Pacquiao over Antonio Margarito in their planned November 13 showdown.

“He’ll just overwhelm Margarito,” Leonard told Fanhouse, noting that Pacquiao’s speed and power will be too much for the Mexican to handle. “It’s not a mismatch, but Pacquiao dominates (this fight).”

Sorcery at Caesars: Sugar Ray's Marvelous FightLeonard is also a multi-division titleholder like the seven-division champion Filipino, having been world champion at welterweight, super-welter, middle, super-middle and light-heavy.

Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum is in the process of finalizing all the details in connection with the fight that will be for the vacant World Boxing Council (WBC) super-welterweight crown.

Not even Pacquiao’s demand that they clash at a catch weight of 150 lbs is an issue, according to Arum, who said Margarito will not oppose it. The super-welter division has a limit of 154 lbs.

The venue remains the only thing that is keeping Arum and Pacquiao’s Canadian adviser Mike Koncz busy these days.

Arum continues to bat for Las Vegas as site, but oil-rich Abu Dhabi is very keen as well. The wealthy Mexican city of Monterrey and Dallas are also in the running to play host to Pacquao’s much-awaited ring return.

Still, Leonard said it is a showdown between Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather that tickles his fancy.

“I want to see and the world wants to see Pacquiao-Mayweather, without question,” said the 54-year-old Leonard, who wound up his sterling career with a 36-3-1 card with 25 knockouts.

“Even me, as a fight fan now, would love to see the fight take place and hopefully it comes into fruition pretty soon,” added Leonard, best known for his memorable battles with Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns and Marvin Hagler.

Source: mb.com.ph